Greetings everyone. I'm looking for assistance in identifying a Luger I recently aquired (If you only had a dollar for every time you hear that line, right?).

Identify your German Luger 761B by the serial. Serial numbers were often repeated. And proof marks help narrow down the identity of a specific Luger.

The DWM Luger Pistols. (serial numbers & quantities) - The Swiss DWM Lugers - The Dutch Lugers. Estimated production and serial blocks. Sep 04, 2015 DWM made luger pistols explained. (serial numbers & quantities) - The Swiss DWM Lugers. (history, serial numbers, functioning). Jul 30, 2014 What Do Luger Numbers Represent? Discussion in '. Both serial and assembly numbers. My 1916 DWM has two different sets of numbers.

I've done a considerable amount of research over the last 24 hours but feel I've reached the limit of my amateur detective work. I've also posted this same thread over on lugerforum.com, no replies so far. Here are the details: 1) Marked DWM on toggle 2) No date on receiver near barrel 3) Chambered in.30 Luger 4) Four-digit serial number with italic 'f' suffix on receiver below barrel, with all matching last 2 digits on side plate, receiver, extractor, behind rear sight, on safety catch, etc. 5) 4 inch barrel (from tip to chamber) 6) Magazine has wooden floor plate.

No serial number or markings found anywhere on magazine. 7) Has stock lug 8) Single tiny proof mark on the side of the joint on the toggle.

It appeared to me to look a lot like the 'Police' proof mark from the reference books I've checked. 9) Front sight doesn't appear to be standard. It looks like it was replaced, though some time ago (1930's?). Here is the really interesting part.

Other than the serial number(s), the tiny proof mentioned above and the GESICHERT on the safety, there are no other markings or proofs of any kind on the gun and no import marks. Most examples of Lugers I have seen have markings everywhere. This one is the most devoid of stamping example of a Luger I've seen. What exactly do I have here? According to the previous owner, a very elderly gentleman who was a friend of his passed away and the gentleman's family asked him to help sort through the very cluttered estate. 4cd Battle Dune Emperor Isolation. Upon searching through the late gentleman's belongings, a cache of hidden away antique firearms was discovered.

In appreciation for his assistance, the family gave the previous owner his choice of one of the antique guns, and naturally he selected the Luger, which spent the last 10 years in his gun safe until I obtained it. Apparently it has been looked at by many an FFL and arms collector and nobody seems to be able to agree as to what it is.

Some thought it to be a 1914 commercial, others didn't know what to make of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here are pics, and I do apologize for the crappy cell phone resolution and lighting. I took close ups of all the markings present: FOCUS ON (POLICE?) PROOF MARK ON TOGGLE: Thanks for taking a look! Last edited by Taliaferro; at 10:48 PM. Hi, and welcome, The little eagle proof on the left side of the breach block is the German military proof. But, there were no.30 caliber German military Lugers.

The front sight is an original that's been modified to a Marbles style bead. How To Renew Nj Drivers License Online. I can't tell you about the serial number, but there are those here who can. To me it appears to be a rebarrel/refinish/rework of a DWM something, originally 9mm, but I can't tell you what. And those are pretty good pics for a phone. MikeThank you!

Glad to be here. I took the pics with my iPhone 4, its a 9 megapixel, but by no means the same quality as my Digital SLR.

I double checked on the proof and I can see it now. It does appear to be a German military proof (proof 14), which is consistent with the four digit serial numbers, so it appears that it isn't a commercial gun. I found the following information on the lugerforum.com under Technical Information, (proof 14): 13. German military receiver proof. Found on 1908 military examples with chamber dates. German military proof.

Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918. German military receiver proof. Found on DWM Lugers 1914-1918. German military receiver proof. Found on Erfurt Lugers produced 1908-1918. Minor variants noted.

German military barrel proof. Found on DWM and Erfurt Lugers produced 1914-1918. Inspector's proof found on small parts of Erfurt produced Lugers. One or more may appear on the weapon. Erfurt and DWM arsenal proof.

Indicates arsenal repair, refurbish, or modification. Arsenal proof found on 1908 military Lugers to which the holdopen device was added. Barrel proof indicating the barrel is made of Bohler steel. The digits refer to the grade of hardness. DWM barrel proof. May be found alone, or with commercial or contract proofs. Found on the 1906 contracts (DWM and Vickers).